As Mentioned in Episode 109 – The Passion of Madelyne Pryor

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  1. Ricochet Rita says:

    As I was saying in your previous “As mentioned…”, Longshot & Dazzler relationship went from worse to worst during Inferno, culminating in this heavy sequence over the river. I must admit I had always read it as a simple lust outburst for both parts (why this CC’s insistence in equating sex and evil?), but then I found several threads refering to this sequence as a rape. I thought about it and I’ve change my mind: now I agree with this opinion because, among other things, it’s got all sense in terms of Longshot’s subsequent storyline –his deep depression and embarrasment, his rift from his teammates during the battle, and above everything his shunning from Alison (his ‘victim’) in the end: “Don’t look at me, don’t talk to me, don’t touch me” (=I’m a beast). I don’t think he needed to use his luck power to persuade Ali, it’s already a rape as far as she didn’t want to start firstly and he was grabbing her against the ground –nevertheless, it’s a fact that Ann Nocenti formerly conceived a ‘black glow’ in his eye when he was using wrongly his luck power.

    BTW, I strongly disagree with Simonson doing a good work with Longshot. But truth is I didn’t like Simonson at all, so… ;P

    • Icon_UK says:

      It’s definitely a consensual red-flag scenario, though I think _both_ parties are victims here.

      Both Longshot and Dazzler are seemingly under heavy corrupting demonic influence at the time, so whilst Longshot may feel a great deal of guilt because that’s the kind of guy he is, I’m not entirely certain he deserves it.

      • Ricochet Rita says:

        Actually, IIRC, Longshot is the only X-Man (apart from Colossus, whose iron body protects him from magic) who is not directly influenced by the evil atmosphere: N’Astirh must grab and bite him to overcome such kind nature as his.

        So yes, through this sequence Longshot is a victim too. Dazzler is physically abused by him, while he’s spiritually raped by N’Astirh since the demon forces him to act aggressively, trampling on else’s will –something that Longshot would never do because it’s against his essence.

        It’s no surprise that, once the spell is vanished, Alison doesn’t look worried at all by the experience (as you said, it seems that she lived it as something consensual –kinda domination/submission play). On the other hand, Longshot is devastated when he realizes that he assaulted such a close friend and that his inner has been rotten –motives are essential for him, so he doesn’t take slightly that something seems to be cracked forever inside him. After Inferno, despite every single X-Men’s misbehavior, Longshot is the only one who feels guilty and shows a sense of ‘penance’ –the others take for granted that they’ve been possessed and there they are with a smile in their faces.

        Ali will try to downplay it, and that’s nice of her, but Longshot won’t get his head above the water. They won’t be seen as a pairing anymore. This episode will deepen Longshot’s identity crisis, and even funny and light UXM #245 has got some desperate touch. He will leave three issue after that, in the saddest way.

  2. monkeysHeinz says:

    I will now and forever refer to the Inferno arc as “Gee and Mister X-Plode the X-Men.”

  3. Bryan says:

    Did you say what Poe song is Madelyne Pryor’s theme music? Did I daydream in that part? Haha. I’ll have to relisten.

  4. Rey J. says:

    Can I just say that his episode is amazing? I’ve listened to this three times, and it just keeps getting better. Even though I enjoyed Inferno as a kid, it didn’t hold up as well when I went back to it in my college years. You guys have given me a new perspective on it, and also put a positive spin on what I, like many fans, have considered gross character assassination for Madelyne Pryor. Thank you for reminding me that even though she was handed a bum wrap, and was an innocent victim in what was an attempt to defend Cyclops’ honor for a rather dickish move on his part, Madelyne still had an amazing send-off. Love this show!!!

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