Tag: Genosha
309 – Excellent Turtle
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In which ballistics get weird; Black Air is no W.H.O.; we have surprisingly mixed feelings about Pete Wisdom and Kitty Pryde as a couple; there is an actual creepy clown bar in Portland; blood eagles are excessively ostentatious; the Uncreated just want to be cool; and Rory Campbell continues his descent into supervillainy.
X-PLAINED:
- The Forever Man
- Turner D. Century
- Excalibur #87-90
- Excalibur (more) (again)
- Genosha (more) (again)
- Some extremely confusing bullets
- Philip Moreau
- Jenny Ransome
- Black Air
- Dream Nails
- Spy bars
- Foundations of Kitty Pryde and Pete Wisdom’s relationship
- Captions
- Work/life separation
- A creepy clown bar
- Easy Tiger
- Blood eagles
- Shrine
- A virus and/or bacteria
- The Uncreated
- Gor the God-Butcher
- Data security
- Rory Campbell vs. Spoor
- How the X-Men got their name
- Terrigen toxicity
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As Mentioned in Episode 305 – The Sleep of the Wicked
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LINKS & FURTHER BACKSTORY
- We covered the Cyburai’s first appearance in Episode 160 – Hank McCoy and the Hickey of Destiny.
- You can learn more about Scarlett McKenzie (and Jay’s favorite X-related miniseries) in Episode 114 – Meltdown.
305 – The Sleep of the Wicked
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In which X-Factor gets its own roster shakeup; most bartenders will look at you funny if you order a flight of superheroes; Kaboom is a great name for a nightclub; we lack significant feelings about the clone saga; Yukio probably sends love to everyone’s girlfriends; Forge has terrible coping mechanisms; and Jay’s current life is not conducive to consistent acoustics (sorry!).
X-PLAINED:
- Mystique’s powers
- X-Factor’s new roster
- X-Factor #112-114
- The word “wreak”
- The issue that made Miles stop reading X-Men
- Wild Child (Kyle Gibney)
- Wolverine as a role
- Cyburai (more) (again)
- Unethical management practices
- One way to be drunk on power(s)
- Scarlett McKenzie (again)
- Club Kaboom
- Yukio (again)
- Fatale
- Summers Problems(TM)
- Marvel’s 1996 reader survey
- A bondage harness that may or may not be made out of dryer tubing
- Alex Summers vs. his own powers
- Sugar Man in the 616
- Several potential but unexplored story hooks for Scarlett
- An implausible implant
- Mystique’s new costume
- A deeply dysfunctional but narratively plausible ship
- A Random tangent
- RPF on Earth-616
- Forge vs. Tony Stark
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As Mentioned in Episode 301 – Can’t Beat the Real Thing
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301 – Can’t Beat the Real Thing
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In which we enter our fourth century of podcasting with brand new theme music; we have both Wolverine questions and wolverine questions; it is extremely rough to be Bishop; the creator of Garfield may or may not live in a sewer on Earth-616; Rogue needs better coping mechanisms; bigotry is depressingly timeless; and everything is Onslaught now.
X-PLAINED:
- Joseph’s Brotherhood of Evil Mutants
- Our new theme music
- X-Men Prime #1
- A genuinely cool cover gimmick
- What happened after the end of the world
- Boundaries
- War crimes vs. fashion crimes
- Destruction of real landmarks in fiction
- A mysterious assailant
- Actual embodied chaos god Jim Davis and his Earth-616 namesake
- Several memorable Garfield stories
- Marrow (Sarah Rushman)
- The secret origin of the Morlocks
- A friendship we miss
- Unhealthy coping mechanisms
- The perennially dubious journalistic ethics of Trish Tilby
- Dennis
- The death of Dennis
- Flaws of the mutant metaphor (more) (again)
- Several refugees from Earth-295
- Mr. Summers and Mr. Summers
- The secret origin of the Genoshan mutates
- The Acolytes
- The continuing relevance of the mutant metaphor (more) (again)
- Cross-universe characterization
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NOTE: The Garfield strips Jay mentions appeared in newspapers, on purpose, in October 1989.
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As Mentioned in Episode 239 – Rap and Rumble (feat. Max Carleton)
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LINKS & FURTHER MAXIMOFFS:
- Max Carleton is an unmitigated delight! Here’s where you can check out more of his work:
- Read Max’s comics about comics at Waiting for the Trade!
- Follow him on Twitter!
- Hear Max and Tina dive into the weird and somewhat horrifying world of Once Upon a Time in Welcome to Storybrooke…
- …and find their secret podcast by supporting them on Patreon!
- Then come back and listen to Max and Jay talk about the wonders and horrors of the X-Men anime in our Episode 115 – So Many Teeth.
- Life on the Infinite Farm, by Richard Evan Schwartz
- Erdös Numbers
- Aud Koch’s impressive take on Viv Vision’s family tree
- Seriously, Marvel, give Aud all your mystical characters immediately.
239 – Rap and Rumble (feat. Max Carleton)
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In which we enter the era of bomber jackets; the covers are the cards; Genosha remains neither green nor pleasant; the A is for “Avengers,” not “A-list”; Henry Peter Gyrich is the straightest of men; Cyclops sets an important precedent; Exodus is a huge jerk; we speculate about movies we have definitely not seen; Stephen Strange is not a qualified OBGYN; the Avengers are really weird even by our standards; and Max manages to connect two of Marvel’s most complicated family trees.
X-PLAINED:
- One way to name babies
- Blood Ties
- Infinite bomber jackets
- Avengers #368-369
- X-Men #26
- Avengers West Coast #101
- Uncanny X-Men #307
- Several very fancy covers
- A shadow government, but not that kind of shadow government
- Genosha (more) (again)
- The Avengers, as of 1993
- A special delegation
- The Genoshan resistance
- U.S. Agent
- A time Cyclops told someone other than Dracula to follow their heart
- The many belts of Nicholas Fury
- Several members of the Maximoff family (more) (again)
- Black Knight (Dane Whitman)
- Sersi
- A very drawn-out fight
- Roy Thomas dialogue
- The racist icing on the racist cake
- Exodus (Bennet du Paris)
- Diplomacy, kind of
- Apolitical avenging
- Magneto’s dream
- A green and pleasant beverage
- Yet another energy-dome-enclosed crisis
- The giant, angry disembodied head of Charles Xavier
- What is definitely the actual plot of the Purge movies
- The surprisingly torrid private lives of the Maximoffs
- Scarlet Witch and Vision’s kids
- Master Pandemonium and his weird baby hands
- Damian Hellstrom
- How we’d handle Magneto’s family in modern Marvel
- Robopaternity
- A possible link between the Summers and Maximoff families
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As Mentioned in Episode 226 – Les Mutants
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Art by David Wynne. Wanna buy the original? Drop him a line! Meet Random. (X-Factor #88) Quesada ribbons: totally a thing! (X-Factor #88) Look, if it works, it works. (X-Factor #88) Well, THAT can’t be good. (X-Factor #88) Who Wore It Better, Garden of Earthly Delights Edition! Genosha, or… (X-Factor #89) …Hieronymus Bosch? (Bosh. Definitely Bosch.) Oh, kiddo. (X-Factor #89) Romance! (X-Factor #88) AND THAT’S WHY YOU ALWAYS LEAVE A NOTE (X-Factor #89) Big mood. (X-Factor #90) Remember when Alex Summers was actually pretty awesome? (X-Factor #90) GENOSHA WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU (so much) (X-Factor #90) Harsh but valid. (X-Factor #90) Meet Mutate #24601, whose mutant power is probably painfully complex internal rhymes. (X-Factor #90) Aw, these goofballs. (X-Factor #90) Genosha’s sanitation system is ridiculous. (X-Factor #91) A+ lurking, Rahne! (X-Factor #91) This definitely won’t come back to haunt Jamie. (It definitely will.) (X-Factor #91) NEXT EPISODE: Wolverine vs. Everything!
At the End of the Fight
Lyrics by Jay Edidin, with apologies to Herbert Kretzmer
Performed by *Luz Bianca, Greg Black, Jeremy Borders, Lucas Brown, Kitty Byrne, *Tina Carelton, *Finn Carter, Everett Christensen, Veryan Croggan, Chris Eddleman, *Christina Eddleman, edibleflowers, Sol Foster, Emily Freville, Matt Gardner, Eric Michael Gray, Pete Gresser, Becky Hawkins, Andrew Hill, Jeff Holland, Al Kennedy, Steve Lacey, Kevin Lanigan, Elana Levin, *Alex Lundquist, Dan McMahon, William Mason, Steve Neal, notwhelmedyet (Lynn), Duck Orsino, Shannon Pack, Erin Pence, *Steve Pence, Philthy, Mariana Poole, rainproof, Samantha Riedel, Scott Sharplin, Adam Slevison, Richaundra Thursday, Dave Tomaine, Devin Toohey, and Grace Young.
*Soloists
[X-FACTOR]
At the end of the fight you’re another page older
And that’s all you can say for the X-Factor life
It’s a struggle, it’s a war
And just when you think that you’re winning
You find yourself stuck on the moon, facing down Stryfe
And the fight’s just beginning
At the end of the fight you’re another fight older
And the X on your jacket won’t keep out the chill
And the readers all hurry past
To the six other X-books they’re buying
As the Legacy Virus spreads fast, ready to kill
One fight nearer to dying
[COMPANY]
A tthe end of the fight there’s another fight coming
A crossover next week, an annual soon
Like a storm that’ll break any second
Foreshadowing Fatal Attractions
There’s a reckoning still to be reckoned
Plus the critics’ hot takes and reactions
And the future is not looking bright
At the end of the fight
[VAL COOPER]
At the end of the fight there will be a debriefing
You don’t get to slack in a government job
[STRONG GUY]
We’ve got better things to do
And this system doesn’t seem fair
After all, we threw all the punches
[POLARIS]
Plus, we don’t care
[STRONG GUY+ WOLFSBANE]
And we need a vacation.
[MULTIPLEMAN]
Have you seen how Val Cooper is fuming today
[QUICKSILVER]
She might be possessed, she seems so out of sorts
[VAL]
Step it up Summers, there’s paperwork waiting–
They’re not dissertations, just mission reports
[COMPANY]
At the end of the fight it’s another fight over
To whatever extent superhero fights end
Fight Magneto, fight the Blob
Fight some guy we just met in a sewer
What the hell, at least it’s a job
Just find us the next evildoer
‘Cause there’s no resolution in sight
At the end of the fight
LINKS & FURTHER NONSENSE:
- David Dinkins was New York City’s first Black mayor and a pretty interesting dude.
- The Lindbergh baby was not in fact safely returned. Sorry, Rahne.
- If you want to know more about Genosha, check out Episode 99 – Those Who Walk Away From Genosha.
- You can hear about Havok’s short career as a magistrate in Episode 156 – Genosha Strikes Back.
- For Val Cooper’s unfortunate encounter with a tentacle monster, listen to Episode 216 – X-Amining X-Factor.
226 – Les Mutants
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In which Havok actually used to be pretty great; there are at least four attorneys in the Marvel Universe; Genosha continues to be wildly problematic; Hieronymus Bosch was not Comics Code-compliant; Quicksilver goes on vacation; Polaris has no time for your love triangle; Wolfsbane can maul as many magistrates as she wants; and Multiple Man makes a choice.
X-PLAINED:
• Damian Tryp
• An unconventional staffing practice
• Genosha (more) (again)
• The devolution of Alex Summers’ personality
• Several attorneys in the Marvel Universe
• X-Factor #88-91
• Random (Marshall Stone III)
• Joe Quesada’s signature ribbons
• Checkbook heroism
• Kids these days
• Genoshan reconstruction
• Several gardens of earthly delights
• Puberty
• A mercifully abandoned plan
• A conspiracy
• A significant tonal shift
• Mutate #24601
• RoboJean
• Genosha’s sanitation system
• Dick Chalker
• Magneto Rex
• Humans in Magneto’s Genosha
NEXT EPISODE: Wolverine vs. everything
Thanks to everyone who helped bring Jay’s weird musical dream to life:
*Luz Bianca, Greg Black, Jeremy Borders, Lucas Brown, Kitty Byrne, *Tina Carelton, *Finn Carter, Everett Christensen, Veryan Croggan, Chris Eddleman, *Christina Eddleman, edibleflowers, Sol Foster, Emily Freville, Matt Gardner, Eric Michael Gray, Pete Gresser, Becky Hawkins, Andrew Hill, Jeff Holland, Al Kennedy, Steve Lacey, Kevin Lanigan, Elana Levin, *Alex Lundquist, Dan McMahon, William Mason, Steve Neal, notwhelmedyet (Lynn), Duck Orsino, Shannon Pack, Erin Pence, *Steve Pence, Philthy, Mariana Poole, rainproof, Samantha Riedel, Scott Sharplin, Adam Slevison, Richaundra Thursday, Dave Tomaine, Devin Toohey, and Grace Young.
*Soloists
Special thanks to Juliana Finch, Christian Lipski, and Laser Webber for technical advice; Christina Eddleman for recording the demo track; and Matt Gardner and Peter Gresser for [Easter egg description redacted].
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