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As Mentioned in Episode 531 – Here Comes Tomorrow

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Please enjoy this loving rendering of Wolverine’s ass. (New X-Men #151)
Meet the ‘Crawlers. (New X-Men #151)
Rover is a good boy. (New X-Men #151)
I really have trouble buying this as E.V.A.(New X-Men #151)
Do you know how long he had to grind for that belt? (New X-Men #151)
Meet Tito Bohusk, sexy hawk. (New X-Men #151)
The Stepford Cuckoos, all grown up. (New X-Men #151)
Wow, Emma. Wow. (New X-Men #152)
The Proud People, who absolutely deserve their own miniseries. (New X-Men #152)
Apollyon is totally That Guy. (New X-Men #152)
Goth team-up! (New X-Men #152)
A great illustration of the power of lettering. (New X-Men #152)
Wolverine poses dramatically. (New X-Men #152)
Wolverine poses dramatically.(New X-Men #152)
Everyone poses dramatically. (New X-Men #152)
…the fuck?!(New X-Men #152)
The Terminds. Don’t get too attached. (New X-Men #153)
They have fun. (New X-Men #153)
Yeah, valid. (New X-Men #153)
I love him.(New X-Men #153)
Didn’t see that team-up coming. (New X-Men #153)
Rover, NOOOOOO!(New X-Men #153)
Wolverine poses dramatically. (New X-Men #153)
Sublime X-Plains Sublime. (New X-Men #154)
The secondary colors of evil science. (New X-Men #154)
Hot Topic Phoenix. (New X-Men #154)
Wolverine X-plains the last century and a half. (New X-Men #154)
The end of the Stepford Cuckoos. (New X-Men #154)
Beast takes a turn posing dramatically. (New X-Men #154)
Phoenix night at the club. (New X-Men #154)
Only departure from the status quo can save the universe. (New X-Men #154)
NEXT EPISODE: The End.

 

531 – Here Comes Tomorrow

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In which we wrap up the continuity portion of the podcast along with our coverage of Grant Morrison’s New X-Men; Wolverine poses dramatically; Cyclops breaks the timeline; Wolverine poses dramatically; we are deeply intrigued by Brian and his magic car; Wolverine poses dramatically; Sublime extends his reach; Phoenix heals the timeline; Wolverine poses dramatically; change is important; and somewhere Wolverine is probably still posing dramatically.

X-PLAINED:

  • X of Swords (somewhat)
  • Endings
  • Varying opinions on the same art
  • Earth-15104
  • ‘Crawlers
  • Tom Skylark
  • Rover (in several media)
  • The Beast (Hank McCoy) (sort of)
  • The evolution of EVA
  • An evocative quotation
  • Several recognizable oracles
  • Where the timeline broke
  • The Proud People
  • Apollyon the Destroyer
  • Mer-Max
  • A somewhat robotic love triangle
  • Tito Bohusk
  • How to hatch a Phoenix egg
  • The White Hot Room
  • The Termids
  • Several atrocities
  • An unfortunate costume choice
  • John Sublime (for real this time)
  • Yet another origin of life on Earth
  • Evil science
  • Kick (more) (again)
  • Weapon XIV
  • The X-Men’s last stand
  • An unlikely Phoenix host
  • Breaking cycles
  • Aspects of Earth-15104 we’d like to see explored further
  • Where we’d conclude the X-Men

NEXT EPISODE: The end.

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As Mentioned in Episode 525 – Beyond This Death

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Warren, no. (New X-Men #131)
Aw, buddy. (New X-Men #131)
<3 <3 <3 (New X-Men #131)
And then everyone immediately forgot that. (New X-Men #131)
Seriously, dick move, Emma. (New X-Men #131)
I really love this panel. (New X-Men #131)
Meanwhile in Genosha. (New X-Men #132)
The magnetic ghosts. (New X-Men #132)
Ah, man. (New X-Men #132)
The last words of Magneto, for now. (New X-Men #132)
Oh, for fuck’s sake. (New X-Men #133)
Damnit, Xavier. (New X-Men #133)
I love the idea that the Shi’ar’s collective Earth disguise is a bunch of Amish dudes.
Dust’s first (conscious) appearance. (New X-Men #133)
Jumbo Carnation! (New X-Men #134)
Quentin Quire before shit goes down. (New X-Men #134)
Seriously, Hank, uncool. (New X-Men #134)
Slick is gddamn adorable. (New X-Men #134)
Someday I will knit this sweater vest. (New X-Men #134)
NEXT EPISODE: Someday I will also knit this sweater vest.

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525 – Beyond This Death

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In which Warren Kenneth Worthington III is a terrible teacher; we are all Magneto’s children; Sooraya Qadir deserves a better origin story; teenagers have a lot of feelings; and we meet one of the modern age’s most controversial mutants.

X-PLAINED:

  • The destiny of Quentin Quire
  • New X-Men #131-134
  • An underattended funeral
  • How to fly? Kinda? I guess?
  • A kiss
  • A friendship
  • Another bit of ruby quartz marginalia that will never be mentioned again
  • A somewhat ill-founded psychic metaphor
  • Emma Frost’s Dark Phoenix costume
  • Some kind of weird affair
  • Echoes of 9/11/2001
  • Genosha, a year later
  • Ghosts
  • Polaris’s paternity
  • Shocker (the mutant one)
  • The last words of Genosha
  • Islamophobia post 9/11
  • Sooraya Qadir (Dust)
  • An attempted hijacking and the aftermath thereof
  • Some Shi’ar nonsense
  • X-Corporation Mumbai
  • Jumbo Carnation
  • Telepathy class
  • An artist’s interpretation of the fate of mankind if mutants are not driven out, as predicted by Bolivar Trask
  • Accountability
  • Professor X’s weird little paintings
  • X-adjectives
  • Best and worst X-Men with whom to share a psychic rapport

NEXT EPISODE: Quentin Quire’s teen angst bullshit gets a body count!

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X-TRA – Jay and Miles Spoil the Hell out of Dark Phoenix

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The Apocalypse emoji remain the best X-Men movie of this generation.

We had a long conversation about Dark Phoenix; and we have uploaded it here for your edutainment!

WARNING: CONTAINS A WHOLE LOT OF SPOILERS FOR DARK PHOENIX.

We were also ALL OVER THE INTERNET last week week! Here are the many places we have been talking about Dark Phoenix and Dark Phoenix Saga-related stuff:

As Mentioned in Episode 115 – So Many Teeth

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No gallery this week–instead, Max put together a visual addendum covering stuff we talked about while watching but forgot to mention in the episode:

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115 – So Many Teeth (feat. Max Carleton)

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Art by David Wynne. Prints and cards available at the shop, or contact David to purchase the original.
Art by David Wynne. Prints and cards available at the shop, or contact David to purchase the original.

In which Jay and Max brave the X-Men anime; the problem isn’t in Wolverine’s pants; Xavier is for once less villainous than he seems; Emma Frost gets ruffly; Cyclops wasn’t even supposed to be here today; and we both really want to hang out with Scott Porter.

X-PLAINED:

  • Billy Kaplan and Tommy Shepherd
  • Waiting for the Trade
  • The X-Men Anime
  • Marvel Anime
  • Scott Porter
  • Jay’s ongoing attempts to assemble a coherent X-Men/Speed Racer conspiracy theory
  • Floating Hands Theater Wolverine
  • An unlikely T.A.
  • Several recurring flashbacks
  • The U-Men
  • The other U-Men
  • Armor (Hisako Ichiki)
  • Emma Frost, but ruffly
  • Evil Moira MacTaggert (Yui Sasaki)
  • The Sasaki Institute
  • The other Inner Circle
  • Marsh
  • Rat
  • Neuron
  • Takeo Sasaki
  • Potluck night at the Hellfire Club
  • Living vs. dead Jean Grey

NEXT EPISODE: Jubilee!

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Halloween X

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We’ve been talking up the Stealth/Plainclothes cosplay contest a lot lately (reminder: deadline is Friday, November 7!), but right in the middle of that came Halloween–and our listeners turned out in some stellar X-wear. Check it out:

If you’re playing along with the Kitty’s Costumes game, take a drink: Meghan Ansbach made Kitty’s one-off costume from Uncanny X-Men #175!
Everything fell into place for Elle Collins‘s Domino costume! (If the name sounds familiar, we’ve mentioned Elle here before–she hosts the kickass pop-culture-obsession podcast Into It.)
PenceyPreparatory makes a marvelous Marvel Girl!
Donna Danger is the first post-Phoenix Emma Frost we’ve seen!
Genkigecko makes her way into the multiverse, as Wolverine of Earth-92124!
The McPherson family of Ohio sent us this photo of what we are objectively certain is the cutest Dark Phoenix of this or any other universe.
This costume–from listener Andrew Joyce–is from a con, not Halloween; but we’re including it anyway, because it’s the hands-down best use of a Probably a Summers Brother t-shirt we have ever seen (and puts a whole new spin on Rob Marsh‘s legendary “Wolverine Meets Freddie Mercury” Marvel submission).

As Mentioned in Episode 13 – Last Stand on the Moon

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You can tell she’s evil on account of the foreshortening. (X-Men #135)
Well, that escalated quickly. (X-Men #135)
“Inexorable” is a word we use a lot when talking about the Dark Phoenix Saga. This is one of those moments that can only lead in one devastating direction. (X-Men #135)
You can tell it’s a big deal because of the cameos… (X-Men #135)
…and the cross-promotion. Hi, Silver Surfer! (X-Men #135)
MALEFIC DESTINY! Claremont can be pretty overwrought, but for a story like this, we would argue that he is PRECISELY WROUGHT ENOUGH. (X-Men #135)
See, shit like this? This is why “malefic destiny” is an entirely appropriate and to-scale phrase. (X-Men #135)
AND THAT’S WHY YOU ALWAYS LEAVE A NOTE! (X-Men #135)
The Shi’ar: Why You Can’t Have Nice Things. (X-Men #136)
But first, a brief round of Danger Room exposition! (X-Men #136)
In John Grey’s defense, “what to do when your child is possessed by a potentially malevolent cosmic force” is really not covered adequately in most parenting books. (X-Men #136)
Comics Wolverine > Movie Wolverine. (X-Men #136)
If Xander’s crayon speech from that one Buffy episode is not direct homage to this scene, I will EAT MY HAT, and also your hat. (X-Men #136)
GOD DAMNIT, PROFESSOR X. (X-Men #136)
And THAT’S how you do a high-stakes psychic duel! (X-Men #136)
This will definitely not come back to haunt you. DEFINITELY NOT. (X-Men #136)
Maybe we will just put this cover in every single “as mentioned” gallery forever. Really, it deserves it. (X-Men #137)
The Watcher is like the narrative equivalent of pullquotes. (X-Men #137)
One step closer to the end. (X-Men #137)
But first, Beast pretty definitely gets a happy ending from a space massage therapist with epic green sideburns! (X-Men #137)
Again: Comics Wolverine > Movie Wolverine. (X-Men #137)
“I’ll take ‘scenes that always make Rachel tear up’ for 200, Alex.” (X-Men #137)
Yeah. (X-Men #137)
TEAMWORK! (X-Men #137)
“I’ll take ‘scenes that always make Rachel tear up’ for 1000, Alex.” (X-Men #137)
Can we have a moment of silence for this completely and absolutely perfect page? (X-Men #137)
The (definitely absolutely 100% permanent) death of Phoenix. (X-Men #137)
This is one of those covers that will be riffed and referenced until the end of time. (X-Men #138)
X-Men #138 renders 11 of the last 12 episodes of this podcast pretty much redundant.
The end… (X-Men #138)
…and the beginning. (X-Men #138)

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13 – Last Stand on the Moon

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In which Jean commits genocide, the Shi’ar are total dicks (again), we have feelings about X-Men #137, Claremont and Byrne do what they do best, shit gets real on the moon, Kitty joins the team, and the Dark Phoenix Saga concludes.

 

X-Plained:

  • Inhumans
  • The Kree
  • The Terrigen Mist
  • Teamwork
  • The Dark Phoenix
  • Cameos with cosmic implications
  • The Phoenix event horizon
  • Establishing scale
  • Psychic battles
  • The winged never-nudes of the Marvel Universe
  • Danger-room exposition
  • The Shi’ar’s really dubious justice system
  • Why X-Men #137 is the definitive issue of X-Men
  • Pacing
  • The power of friendship
  • Quiet moments
  • The blue area of the moon
  • The best last stand
  • Moon vandalism
  • The Phoenix Retcon

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