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228 – Thinkin’ Shorts
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In which it still sucks to be a Rasputin; John Romita Jr. has a solid, if muscular, grasp of anatomy; Jay and Miles are better exes than Forge and anyone; and Cannonball’s many younger siblings have almost prepared him for running X-Force.
X-PLAINED:
- Peters Parker
- The Merry X-Men Holiday Special
- Comic book release schedules vs. J&MXPtXM
- Uncanny X-Men #301-302
- Trevor F**king Fitzroy, possibly the worst Upstart
- Comics Code Authority closeting versus real-life closeting
- 21st Century Torture Devices
- Risky mood fonts
- Robert’s Rules of Upstart Order (this week)
- Gamesmaster vs. the Isolationist
- Shinobi Shaw: Good At Sex
- Russian tragedy (more, again)
- Charles Xavier and his poor decisions
- Shi’ar tech support
- Pants and villainy
- Racist jerks vs. rhetorical questions
- TIME PARADOX
- Weirdly specific contingencies
- Piotr Rasputin and his justified fury
- X-Force #24
- Meaningless (but fun!) timestamps
- The Friends of Humanity (who are not our friends)
- Rusty and Skids’ latest arrest
- Disappointed Dad Sam Guthrie
- Action vs. public perception
- Vinz Clortho
- Domino’s continuing quest to figure out what exactly an X-Force is
- The dramatic return of… well, you know
- Spacesuit logistics
- Numerical universe designations
- Plastic Warlock
NEXT EPISODE: Our Fifth Annual Giant-Size Winter Special!
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As Mentioned in Episode 227 – Wolverine, Killing
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LINKS & FURTHER TANGENTS:
- For more discussions of Kent Williams art, check out Episode 114 – Meltdown.
- For more hawk talk, go to Episode 212 – Drumbeats of Despair.
- Nate Powell makes gorgeous comics.
- John Moschitta, better known as “The Micro Machines Guy,” was famous for his fast patter in the ’80s.
- Smooth, smooth, smooth.
- Chichester and Sienkiewicz’s Moby Dick
- You cannot understand how impressive this animation was in 1998.
- “It sucks… as it cuts!”
227 – Wolverine, Killing
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In which Cowboy Poet Wolverine is the best Wolverine; the Masters of the Universe basically had Internet Cat names; Miles has an Early Metallica moment; Wolverine: Killing is just ludicrously excellent; and the hawk joke somehow keeps going.
X-PLAINED:
- An eccentric approach to ecoterrorism
- Wolverine: Inner Fury
- Wolverine: Killing
- The narrative limits of Bill Sienkiewicz
- Various Terrors
- The Whale and/or Shark
- Microminibots
- A trap
- Mr. Big
- A sexy coffee cup
- Literary allusions
- Atmospheric narration
- Urban despair
- A peculiar community
- Cowboy Poet Wolverine
- A thematic meditation
- Depressingly exceptional representation of a lady in peril
- King Hiss
- The world according to Logan
- The theoretical microbrewery scene of an imaginary enclave
- Regional differences in IPAs
- Feelings and their various sources
- The symbolism of Wolverine’s costume
- Home
- How Archangel sleeps
- Adamantium vs. Vibranium
NEXT EPISODE: This ‘n’ that ‘n’ Rusty ‘n’ Skids!
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At the End of the Fight

Do you wish Les Miserables were about X-Men? TODAY YOU ARE IN LUCK: Here is a downloadable version of the parody of “At the End of the Day” that closed Episode 226!
As Mentioned in Episode 226 – Les Mutants
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Art by David Wynne. Wanna buy the original? Drop him a line! Meet Random. (X-Factor #88) Quesada ribbons: totally a thing! (X-Factor #88) Look, if it works, it works. (X-Factor #88) Well, THAT can’t be good. (X-Factor #88) Who Wore It Better, Garden of Earthly Delights Edition! Genosha, or… (X-Factor #89) …Hieronymus Bosch? (Bosh. Definitely Bosch.) Oh, kiddo. (X-Factor #89) Romance! (X-Factor #88) AND THAT’S WHY YOU ALWAYS LEAVE A NOTE (X-Factor #89) Big mood. (X-Factor #90) Remember when Alex Summers was actually pretty awesome? (X-Factor #90) GENOSHA WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU (so much) (X-Factor #90) Harsh but valid. (X-Factor #90) Meet Mutate #24601, whose mutant power is probably painfully complex internal rhymes. (X-Factor #90) Aw, these goofballs. (X-Factor #90) Genosha’s sanitation system is ridiculous. (X-Factor #91) A+ lurking, Rahne! (X-Factor #91) This definitely won’t come back to haunt Jamie. (It definitely will.) (X-Factor #91) NEXT EPISODE: Wolverine vs. Everything!
At the End of the Fight
Lyrics by Jay Edidin, with apologies to Herbert Kretzmer
Performed by *Luz Bianca, Greg Black, Jeremy Borders, Lucas Brown, Kitty Byrne, *Tina Carelton, *Finn Carter, Everett Christensen, Veryan Croggan, Chris Eddleman, *Christina Eddleman, edibleflowers, Sol Foster, Emily Freville, Matt Gardner, Eric Michael Gray, Pete Gresser, Becky Hawkins, Andrew Hill, Jeff Holland, Al Kennedy, Steve Lacey, Kevin Lanigan, Elana Levin, *Alex Lundquist, Dan McMahon, William Mason, Steve Neal, notwhelmedyet (Lynn), Duck Orsino, Shannon Pack, Erin Pence, *Steve Pence, Philthy, Mariana Poole, rainproof, Samantha Riedel, Scott Sharplin, Adam Slevison, Richaundra Thursday, Dave Tomaine, Devin Toohey, and Grace Young.
*Soloists
[X-FACTOR]
At the end of the fight you’re another page older
And that’s all you can say for the X-Factor life
It’s a struggle, it’s a war
And just when you think that you’re winning
You find yourself stuck on the moon, facing down Stryfe
And the fight’s just beginning
At the end of the fight you’re another fight older
And the X on your jacket won’t keep out the chill
And the readers all hurry past
To the six other X-books they’re buying
As the Legacy Virus spreads fast, ready to kill
One fight nearer to dying
[COMPANY]
A tthe end of the fight there’s another fight coming
A crossover next week, an annual soon
Like a storm that’ll break any second
Foreshadowing Fatal Attractions
There’s a reckoning still to be reckoned
Plus the critics’ hot takes and reactions
And the future is not looking bright
At the end of the fight
[VAL COOPER]
At the end of the fight there will be a debriefing
You don’t get to slack in a government job
[STRONG GUY]
We’ve got better things to do
And this system doesn’t seem fair
After all, we threw all the punches
[POLARIS]
Plus, we don’t care
[STRONG GUY+ WOLFSBANE]
And we need a vacation.
[MULTIPLEMAN]
Have you seen how Val Cooper is fuming today
[QUICKSILVER]
She might be possessed, she seems so out of sorts
[VAL]
Step it up Summers, there’s paperwork waiting–
They’re not dissertations, just mission reports
[COMPANY]
At the end of the fight it’s another fight over
To whatever extent superhero fights end
Fight Magneto, fight the Blob
Fight some guy we just met in a sewer
What the hell, at least it’s a job
Just find us the next evildoer
‘Cause there’s no resolution in sight
At the end of the fight
LINKS & FURTHER NONSENSE:
- David Dinkins was New York City’s first Black mayor and a pretty interesting dude.
- The Lindbergh baby was not in fact safely returned. Sorry, Rahne.
- If you want to know more about Genosha, check out Episode 99 – Those Who Walk Away From Genosha.
- You can hear about Havok’s short career as a magistrate in Episode 156 – Genosha Strikes Back.
- For Val Cooper’s unfortunate encounter with a tentacle monster, listen to Episode 216 – X-Amining X-Factor.
226 – Les Mutants
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In which Havok actually used to be pretty great; there are at least four attorneys in the Marvel Universe; Genosha continues to be wildly problematic; Hieronymus Bosch was not Comics Code-compliant; Quicksilver goes on vacation; Polaris has no time for your love triangle; Wolfsbane can maul as many magistrates as she wants; and Multiple Man makes a choice.
X-PLAINED:
• Damian Tryp
• An unconventional staffing practice
• Genosha (more) (again)
• The devolution of Alex Summers’ personality
• Several attorneys in the Marvel Universe
• X-Factor #88-91
• Random (Marshall Stone III)
• Joe Quesada’s signature ribbons
• Checkbook heroism
• Kids these days
• Genoshan reconstruction
• Several gardens of earthly delights
• Puberty
• A mercifully abandoned plan
• A conspiracy
• A significant tonal shift
• Mutate #24601
• RoboJean
• Genosha’s sanitation system
• Dick Chalker
• Magneto Rex
• Humans in Magneto’s Genosha
NEXT EPISODE: Wolverine vs. everything
Thanks to everyone who helped bring Jay’s weird musical dream to life:
*Luz Bianca, Greg Black, Jeremy Borders, Lucas Brown, Kitty Byrne, *Tina Carelton, *Finn Carter, Everett Christensen, Veryan Croggan, Chris Eddleman, *Christina Eddleman, edibleflowers, Sol Foster, Emily Freville, Matt Gardner, Eric Michael Gray, Pete Gresser, Becky Hawkins, Andrew Hill, Jeff Holland, Al Kennedy, Steve Lacey, Kevin Lanigan, Elana Levin, *Alex Lundquist, Dan McMahon, William Mason, Steve Neal, notwhelmedyet (Lynn), Duck Orsino, Shannon Pack, Erin Pence, *Steve Pence, Philthy, Mariana Poole, rainproof, Samantha Riedel, Scott Sharplin, Adam Slevison, Richaundra Thursday, Dave Tomaine, Devin Toohey, and Grace Young.
*Soloists
Special thanks to Juliana Finch, Christian Lipski, and Laser Webber for technical advice; Christina Eddleman for recording the demo track; and Matt Gardner and Peter Gresser for [Easter egg description redacted].
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As Mentioned in Episode 225 – Class Reunion (feat. Austin Gorton)
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LINKS & FURTHER READING
- We talked all about Firestar in Episode 42 – A Firestar Is Born
- Check out Austin Gorton’s X-Aminations – writeups of every X-issue from 1963 on!
- Listen to Austin on his podcast, A Very Special Episode!
225 – Class Reunion (feat. Austin Gorton)
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In which we check in on Firestar and the New Warriors; superheroes often celebrate Bring Your Mom To The Amazon Day; Fabian Nicieza employs only the finest of lampshades; and Emma Frost still doesn’t apologize for blowing up that pony.
X-PLAINED:
- Vance Astro(vik)
- Penance (but not that one)
- Austin Gorton’s X-Aminations
- New Warriors #10
- Firestar (Angelica Jones)
- The New Warriors
- Visual representations of invisible mutant powers
- The Hellions (more) (again)
- Tarot and her Morrisonian powers
- Bevatrons
- Oxy-cution
- The inevitably increasing complexity of superhero origins
- The Miracle of Microwaves
- New Warriors #31
- Nova Roma
- Magma (Amara Aquilla) (or Allison Crestmere, I guess)
- A brief and futile attempt at Roman soldier disambiguation
- Empath and his large collection of red flags
- Gender-based intuition
- A massive, stupid, and quickly undone retcon
- Super-nature versus super-nurture
- The hypothetical psychological roots of Emma Frost’s fashion phases
NEXT EPISODE: X-Factor finally makes it to Genosha!
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As Mentioned in Episode 224 – Fix the Future
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LINKS & FURTHER COSMIC ENTITIES:
- For the highlights of Rachel Summers’s history with the Phoenix Force, and Earth-811, we’d recommend checking out these episodes:
- While we can’t guarantee that it’ll protect against telepathy, here are a pattern and detailed instructions for making your own cardboard Magneto helmet.