Jay & Miles X-Plain the X-Men

529 – Magneto Was Wrong

Illustration by David Wynne

In which many plot threads come together; Charles Xavier is a catastrophically bad listener; you should probably not live in the Marvel Universe; bridges are really important; there’s nothing sexy about dying of heat exhaustion; and we judge Morrison’s Magneto and find him wanting.

X-PLAINED:

  • What Xorn did after dying
  • The story so far
  • New X-Men #146-148
  • Beast’s typing gloves
  • Several innovative ways to type loudly
  • Doomed plans
  • A manufactured confrontation
  • A trap
  • Magneto reimagined
  • Visual depictions of sweat
  • “New Genosha”
  • Death and rebirth
  • Whether Magneto has a place in New X-Men; and if so, what
  • A name for an era

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6 comments

  1. -“Jean… What IS this place? Are these words from the future?”
    -“It’s not a place. It’s how it feels to be the last hope… And to know you’ll win against all the odds.”
    New X-Men 128

    And just like that, the most obvious foreshadowing (with images of a city in ruins) of this run stars to pay off

    ——-

    At the time this isses came out, you still could see the face of Osama Bin Landen on countless of heroics t-shirts and murals all around the world (OK, maybe not in the USA)

    I always saw the “Magneto was right” t-shirts and Magneto’s actions on this arc as Morrison reacting to that.

    And today we have kids buying the looks of the Columbine shooters…

    Yes, oh shit! indeed

    ——-

    I always called this era Morrisonian Times

  2. I don’t think I ever made this connection until your coverage of this run because I didn’t read it in the context of when it came out, but the comment Magneto being a terrorist twat really solidified why Morrison went in this direction for Magneto. I don’t think it’s at all separable from the War on Terror.

    Prior to 9/11, there was definitely a romantic notion for some terrorists – not just in the Muslim World, but elsewhere as well (the Irish Republican Army is a big example). After 9/11, there was a push to demystify them. Terrorists weren’t at all romantic, they were murdering bullies. And the sillier you could make them the better. This feels very much in that conversation, but using Magneto in that role.

  3. I find it interesting that the arc so far is juxtaposed between Wolverine and Magneto. One who only thinks of himself as a fixed character incapable of being more than a killer, but is told in story he’s so much more and capable of growth. The other, one who has shown signs of growth and being more than just the Silver Age terrorist and fascist until authorial or editorial mandate demands he go back to that fixed status quo.

    I feel like this arc or run can’t be taken out of context of the culture surrounding it. Even if Morrison wasn’t consciously reacting against the idea of the terrorist as “noble freedom fighter,” it’s hard to imagine that it wasn’t being processed in their mind.

  4. I loved this episode! Thank you.

    It reminded me of some thoughts I’d had about reading the Morrison era as a sequel to the silver age. Getting down voted on Reddit but if okay, thought I would share here.

    Hot take: Morrison’s New X-Men is best read as a sequel to the silver age…

    Hear me out…

    Let’s imagine that Giant Sized X-Men (1975) had never existed and the book ceased in 1970. Then let’s imagine that at the turn of the millennium, Marvel execs decided to revive some forgotten books and revamp them for the 21st century. I think what we’ve got could have looked very similar to Morrison’s New X-Men – a series that ignored much of Claremont and the 90s.

    Here are some examples of what I mean:

    – Finding and training mutants is central – this was the premise of the Stan/Jack era and it got slightly lost in the 80s
    – The characters – Charles, Jean, Scott and Hank are central. It’s easy to believe that they just grew up at the school, never left and became teachers. Obviously Logan and Emma don’t fit this pattern – but they could easily have been new characters that the revived run introduced us to
    – Scott and Jean – their slow burn romance is a running theme during the 60s, even though they don’t quite get together. The gradual collapse of their marriage is central to Morrison’s run, even though they don’t quite split up. Scott’s affair with Emma (and his rationale for it) makes more sense if he had started a teenage romance with Jean and never questioned if he could love someone else. In the 80s, Scott lost Jean and had relationships with other women, even marrying one. He also feared that he had fallen out of love with her when she first became Phoenix. People forget how long it took him and Jean to get back together in X-Factor and he had that 90s wobble with Psylocke before getting married. I get that Apocalypse made him re-examine everything, but the idea that he had never faced such fears before doesn’t work if we factor in the 70s, 80s and 90s
    – Magneto – they think their arch foe is dead but in the end he turns out to be behind all their troubles. This feels very silver age. And the Magneto we see on page? He is just the super-villain of the 60s. The Claremont character development was thrown out the window

    Okay, so I do recognise that there are several aspects of the run that do not fit this theory. I have (no prize) explanations:

    – The Phoenix force – at least on the surface, this is a direct nod to Claremont. But how much really connects the two stories? It’s only toward the end of the run that Phoenix feels “cosmic”
    – Logan and Weapon X – Wolverine and his origin are instrumental to Morrison’s run. But they pretty much re-write the character’s back story and turns our understanding of the Weapon X programs on it’s head
    – Emma – clearly a Claremont creation. But you don’t need to digest her 80s appearances or absorb the pages of Gen X to understand what makes her tick in New X-Men. In fact, it’s better if you haven’t
    – The Sh’iar – another Claremont classic. But again, almost unrecognisable from previous appearances

    As I say, a bit of a hot take. But I hope it gives food for thought…

  5. I do wonder how much Jiminez being a cis guy drawing a reasonable bra might be partially due to him being one of the few out queer artists on mainstream comics I remember from that era. Obviously, cis gay men aren’t immune to cis male oversights, but it also means he wouldn’t be like “tee-hee-hee boobs” and, more likely, has had interactions with female friends in more casual states of undress.

    Re: Naked Prof X – I’m going to invoke the Hard Choices X-Men ep. Particularly, MeganBob’s insistence that sex with Magneto is ALWAYS going to be an absentee threesome with Charles and that the only way to really get Magneto interested is to engage in some form of CharlesPlay.

    Anyway, man, I remember issue 146’s end HITTING back in the day. If I remember correctly, it came out one of the first weeks my brother was at college and, he came home for that weekend, and I immediately was like “Read it.”

    And that Wolverine-Jean part…it’s good. It’s really good. Morrison’s X-Men weirdly has a reputation for being very cerebral and emotionless, but they DO get the main characters and particularly the sense that these are people who’ve been around each other for a while and gone through the gamut of emotions with each other.

  6. The depictions of the destruction and chaos of New York seem strangely understated and dreamlike, certainly compared to the destruction of Genosha earlier in the run. This could have been another effect of 9/11 on the creative team — they know very well what destroyed skyscrapers look like, and I don’t blame them for wanting to do a realistic take. So instead we get the everything-goes-red effect, like how Kill Bill went to black-and-white for the many of the really violent scenes.

    But the effect on the reader lessens the impact and makes it more surreal — if you had told me that all of these was a Kick-induced hallucination of Magneto’s, I’d nod and say, “makes sense.”

    It’s also one of several elements that seem to weirdly lower the stakes — another is Magneto’s choice of followers. I get that Morrison doesn’t want to bring in more heroes for the final showdown — as much sense as that would make — but all Magneto can muster for flunkies is Toad and the special class? We know this crew is no threat, and the fact that Magneto can’t seem to draw any better worshippers is an early sign of how pathetic a foe Morrison thinks he is.

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